Karine Maucourt ([email protected])
Tue, 01 Dec 1998 13:48 +0100 (MET)
At 00:39 01/12/1998 +0800, you wrote:
>Karine wrote:
>faulty logic going on here. of course a former drug addict would tell you
>its impossible to control you. in their view, if they werent able to
>control themselves obviously nobody else can. how about asking the many
>casual drug users who DO have it under control.
But how long ? Sorry to annoy you, but in my mind, casual drug users
become addicted easily, except if they stop to take their drug before being
addicted. I'm very doubtful...
And Robert <[email protected]> message explained it
very well.
>
>> I'd really love to know someone who is really coke addicted and can
>>control it.
>
>
>but. . .but. . .by definition an addi - oh i get it. . .this is a trick
>question, isn't it?
>
>you sneaky girl. . .you almost had me going there. . .
Sorry again, i'm not sneaky, just stubborn ;-)). And i wanted to
make it clear.
At 00:52 01/12/1998 +0800, you wrote:
>
>Karine wrote:
>
>> Sorry, re-read the N Stokes book about the songs, it's not written
>>these songs are about heroin, but about drugs.
>
>well how many times on tour did bono specifically say the songs were about
>heroin? lots n lots. if you're going to take someone's word as gospel,
>might as well be Unca' Bono himself, huh?
In N. Stokes, it's often Gavin Friday who talk with Stokes. You
doubt of all what is written in books ???? It's not because i believe this
part of the book it's gospel to me. You're a little excessive here....
>>And how can you justify coke is less dangerous than heroin ??????
>
>when did i say that? i just said it was possible that bono hated heroin so
>much because lots of people he knew had gotten fucked up over it, while he
>didn't have as big a grudge against coke. not saying that's what happened,
>just that it's possible.
Sorry, i understood in one of your wire messages you thought coke
was less dangerous than heroin. IMHO, both can make you addicted and both
have the same danger of addiction, so both have to be avoided, even in a
casual way. But it's just my opinion...
At 00:57 01/12/1998 +0800, you wrote:
>Karine wrote:
>
>> During the JT tour, all the band drank very much and it also could
>>explain his ramblings. And do you know Bono said he was influenced by Iggy
>>pop for writing songs and for some kinds of ramblings on stage ?
>
>of course drinking could explain it. . .but then again so could drugs.
>could be either of them. . .all we did was point out the possibility. hmm,
>i'll have to listen to my iggy stuff again, i dont recall him sounding quite
>as idiotic as bono occasionally did.
>
About Iggy Pop, i thought about what Bono said for the lyrics he
changed when singing them (especially during the earliest tours). And i
thought Bono's mumblings appeared when he forgot the lyrics and wanted to
change them.
About alcohol, it's sure they drank too much during the JT tour,
Bono admitted it and why would he say that if it wasn't true at all ? And
how could they take drugs in the same time than alcohol ? I mean, they could
bear both ? It's this which made me think they couldn't take drugs at that
time. But anything is sure, of course.
In the name of love
Karine
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