Thank fuck for Zeek!

Stephen McBride ([email protected])
Tue, 2 Feb 1999 21:33:26 -0000

How long, how long do we have to tolerate this shit?
>
> >In the North of Ireland, over the past thirty years of >conflict,
> almost four hundred men, women and children >have been killed in
> highly controversial
> >circumstances by the British Army and the RUC. >Countless others have
> died as a result of collusion >between loyalist death squads and the
> various branches >of the British establishment.
>
Hear fucking hear, Lyndon! I too am sick of this shite from across
the Atlantic from people who are little better than tourists, and who
feel they present a one sided piece of biased garbage as if it were
fact! I too have had family maimed by IRA violence. A friend at
school was murdered at his doorstep by an IRA man, whose words
after the shooting were "oh fuck, wrong house!" Oh well, I
suppose it's OK when republicans make mistakes, huh?

We have lived with this obscenity all our lives, while the fucking
tree hugging, right-on, politically correct "Irish" Americans speak
about Northern Ireland as if they have THE definitive opinion.

Remember Edge's recent interview in "Q", where he revealed the
original words of SBS were (approximately) "Don't talk to me about
the rights of the IRA"?

Whereas David's posts were wonderful, reminding me of how
anarchic and irreverent Dubliners are!

Censor the apologists of murder, Joel. Not David!

Stephen

> lets not mention why shall we? how many did turn out to be active
> republicans (remember Loughall or Gibraltar?)
> out with the intention to kill and maim? or how the British security
> forces are forced to operate in difficult circumstances in
> republican-controlled areas because of the threat to their lives? i
> decry the murder of innocents by the security forces but when young
> soldiers have to patrol West Belfast and to take well known examples a
> car doesnt stop at a checkpoint or a young man refuses to heed a soldiers
> shout to stop, and when soldiers have felt that their lives could be at
> risk, yes, they have sometimes chosen to shoot first. I don't deny the
> sadness and pain that families have experienced when they have been the
> victims of the Army/RUC but I feel annoyed at the political acumen used by
> republicans in highlighting victims of state violence as a way of
> virilifying (sic?) the security forces and 'justifying' calls to remove
> the Army/disband the RUC.
>
> Some families whose IRA son/father/whatever was shot dead by the
> British security forces have rushed into the courts to claim
> compensation from the Crown (they'll say the British shouldnt be here but
> they'll take British money all right). The grieving families who lost a
> son or father who was in the Army or RUC at the hands of republicans will
> never receive any recompense from the terrorists, who will always consider
> the murder of a soldier or policeman a 'justifiable' deed as they are an
> agent of the 'British occupiers'.
>
> Joel, would you like me to begin postings highlighting N Ireland
> politics? Maybe I could list all the victims of IRA violence? Or daily I
> could post an account from a relative of a victim of the Troubles? or
> maybe all this is unrelated to the list and if so, maybe you now know what
> sort of stuff should be getting kept off WIRE? and its not Daves Dublin
> News.
>
> sorry bout all the irrelevant un-U2-related ramblings.
>
> zeek.

"We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars."

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