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The strip is drawn by Jon Langford (of the 20-year-old rock group the 
Mekons) under the pseudonym Chuck Death. A friend from his hometown of 
Newport, Wales, Colin B. Morton, writes the text. 
"Some people have a problem with the comic strip," Mr. Langford said. 
"Morrissey picked up a copy and threw it across the room and said his chin 
was too big. He was quite angry. But others, especially less popular bands, 
have used the comic as a T-shirt and view being included in it as an 
honor." 
The criteria for being included in "Great Pop Things" are usually 
arrogance, a lack of self-awareness and being a pop-culture phenomenon, 
which has made for lots of comics about Morrissey, Madonna and U2. Unlike 
Morrissey, U2 has never responded to the barbed, mocking insults the comic 
has hurled at them. "That's one of the things that gall me," Mr. Langford 
said. "We relentlessly pillory them for being one of the most obnoxious and 
pompous of rock bands. But they've never gotten back to us. I'm sure they 
could break our legs if they wanted to." 
The strip originally ran in Record Mirror in England in 1988 and, according 
to Mr. Langford, his inspiration has never ebbed. "Just when we think we've 
run out of ideas, David Bowie will say he's going to relaunch 'Ziggy 
Stardust,' " he said. "Or the Sex Pistols will reform and we'll go, 'Wow, 
we can get five strips out of that; that's like 500 bucks.' There's no 
bounds to the ridiculousness of pop people." 
But does Mr. Langford feel hypocritical in making fun of all these popular 
and semipopular musicians when he is one himself? "They've got more money 
than me, but they're not as good-looking or talented, so I should ridicule 
them," he explained, not without sarcasm. "So it was partially inspired out 
of greed and hatred." 
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>From Pierluigi: 
Italian Chart Info: 
Albums: 
1. Bluesugar - Zucchero [up from 2] 
2. Best Of... (2 cd) - U2 [down from 1] 
The 1cd version is at # 7 [up from 8] 
Singles: 
Sweetest Thing at # 5 [down from 3] 
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Rollingstone Online has an interview with The Edge available at: 
            http://www.rollingstone.com/aolny/features/u2best/u2best.html 
The only problem is that when I try and download the file, it gives a 
404 - File Not Found error.... 
I'll let everyone know when it's up and running. 
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There's a long Kirk Franklin article avaliable at : 
that has a Bono mention in it -- oh yeah :), the article is entitled 
"With Or Without You". 
(Whoops!  Thanks to Ian Barker for this article!) 
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>From Derek Mark Mcallister(Thanks as always!): 
"The Marian Finnucane Show, Radio 1; December 8th 1998. 
I have just been listening to a discussion on Irelands Radio 1 
show. Sad to say it but the now world famous U2 wall beside 
Windmill Studio's has been demolished by Dublin County Council. 
Ordinary Dublin folk of all ages 15 to 50 rang in to say how 
dissapointed they were that the wall was knocked. The callers from 
the UK even got pissed off with the City managers who were in 
studio to answer the calls from the general public. 
They got a roasting from many people who said it was a disgrace not 
just to knock the wall but then turn around and say it was 
"complete vandalism of the area". 
I am glad someone mentioned one point and that was that not only 
was it to add insult to injury that they knocked down the wall but 
these are the same people who will not give U2 some type of honour 
from the city they have always toasted. Two middleaged women said 
it was about time Bono and the boys got "freedom of Dublin" or 
honoury university derees!!, mind you I agree that they should be 
honoured with something by Dublin City. 
Many of the "Arty" types in Dublin rang to say how saddened they 
were to see such an impressive work of art dissappear for good. 
I wonder where the next big unofficial memorial will spring up, 
Bono's house, Edges house, or the nearest structure to the old wall 
down on Windmill Lane?, who is to know but I am sure it will all 
reappear again. 
Anyhow, there was no word from the band on "The Marian Finnucane 
Show" nor was there any comment from spokespersons on behalf of the 
band. 
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>From The Financial Times: 
$11BN BID FOR WORLD'S LARGEST MUSIC GROUP 
EXPECTED TO TRIGGER FURTHER MERGERS IN SECTOR 
BYLINE:  By Alice Rawsthorn 
  Seagram, the Canadian drinks and entertainment group, has secured 
shareholder approval to conclude its $ 10.95bn (�6.6bn) bid for PolyGram, 
the world's largest music company. It plans to close the deal on Thursday. 
It will then start merging PolyGram, which includes U2, All Saints and 
Elton John among its artists, into Universal Music, Seagram's existing 
music arm. The dramatic expansion of Universal, by far the smallest of the 
"big six"  multinational music groups, threatens to shake up the $ 38bn 
global music market at a time of sluggish sales and rising piracy. 
The increase in Universal's worldwide market share, from roughly 6 per cent 
to 24 per cent, may trigger more mergers among the big six. 
After winning control of PolyGram, Seagram is expected to shed about 3,000 
jobs from its 15,500 music workforce, which it hopes will save $ 300m a 
year. Most of the job losses will be in North America, where Universal's 
distribution operation will be pooled with PolyGram's. 
Seagram has already drawn up plans to restructure the US record labels into 
four groups, most to be run by former Universal heads. It will have to make 
large pay-offs to departing chiefs. Danny Goldberg, head of PolyGram's 
Mercury Records, for instance, is believed to have three-and-a-half years 
left on a contract worth $ 3m to $ 4m a year. 
The cuts should be less severe outside North America, where Universal's 
business is significantly smaller. Universal's distribution, currently 
sub-contracted to Bertelsmann, will be transferred to PolyGram's existing 
plants. 
However, Seagram will have to complete several smaller transactions 
triggered by the PolyGram deal. It must decide whether to sell the 
remaining assets of PolyGram's film arm, or merge them into Universal's 
film business. Further sell-offs could include PolyGram's minority stakes 
in the Really Useful Group - to Lord Lloyd Webber, the founder - and in 
London Records, which is controlled by the family trust of Roger Ames, 
PolyGram's worldwide head of music. 
The complex and costly process of integrating PolyGram comes at a time when 
Universal's film business is in disarray following the departure of Frank 
Biondi, president of Seagram's entertainment division, and Casey Silver, 
chairman of its movie studio. 
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MuchMusic aired a segment on "Babe" Part II in which it noted that 
the camera used in some of the filming was a one of a kind camera 
owned by U2. 
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Condensed from The Irish Times : 
December 5, 1998 
Paul McGuinness, manager of U2 
Mary, Mary (Townhouse, (pounds) 14.99) by Julie Parsons is the 
psychological thriller of the year. Someone called it Silence of The Lambs 
set in Ballsbridge. Michael Colgan and I liked it so much we have bought 
the film rights for our new film company. The Untouchable (Picador, 
(pounds) 5.99 in UK) by John Banville, I have to choose because I read all 
about the British intelligence services and this novel is a great coda to 
all the Anthony Blunt and Cambridge Apostles over the years. The central 
character is unsympathetic but fascinating. 
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(Thanks to David Comay for the following) 
>From Entertainment Weekly : 
December 4, 1998 
U2 POPMART LIVE FROM MEXICO CITY 
     Review by Rob Brunner 
U2 POPMART LIVE FROM MEXICO CITY (1998, PolyGram, unrated, $19.95) 
The best concert movies--The Last Waltz, Stop Making Sense--bridge 
the impersonal distance typical of the live rock experience, 
creating an intimacy never possible when you're just a face 
in the arena. U2's PopMart tour attempted to combat such stadium 
anonymity with an overwrought stage show (a huge video screen, 
a giant lemon on a stick) designed to project to the backs 
of the world's biggest venues. But unless your living room is 
the size of the Mexican stadium where this show was shot last 
December, the TV version of the PopMart behemoth will seem 
numbingly excessive, despite energetic versions of "Where the 
Streets Have No Name" and "New Year's Day." B- --Rob Brunner 
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Thanks to John Hlavaty for the following: 
Most recent album and single chart news: 
U.S.: 
"Best Of + B-Sides": 
#2-5-21-28 
"Best Of": 
#57-45-68 
"The Sweetest Thing": 
9 total weeks on the Modern Rock charts, last 
five weeks: #17-13-11-11-10(!) 
Reached #66 on the revised Hot 100 chart 
last week. 
U.K.: 
"Best Of + B-Sides": 
#1-2-15-21-23 
"Best Of": 
#8-9-4-8 
"The Sweetest Thing": 
#3-4-10-18-31-38-out of top 40 
Canada: 
"Best Of + B-Sides": 
#1-4-11-19 
"Best Of": 
#5-8-6 
"The Sweetest Thing": 
Part 1: 
#1-3-3-3-6 
Part 2: 
#3-4-2-7-7 
Ireland: 
"Best Of": 
#1-1-1 
"The Sweetest Thing": 
#1-2-4-9-11 
Australia: 
"Best Of": 
#1-1-1-1-3 
"The Sweetest Thing": 
#6-6-10-10-15-19-21 
With "The Sweetest Thing" finally entering the 
top 10 on the U.S. Modern Rock charts, U2 has 
once again had a top 10 hit around the world. :-) 
I do not have access to all of the U.S. Hot 100. Last 
week the song reached #66 on the chart. It 
remains out of the top 50 this week. 
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Okay, there's a URL circulating for the Y2K party.  Before I give it 
to you a few things.  One, I am not responsible if you book and U2 
doesn't play.  Two, I am not even sure if this is the correct Y2K 
party.  Three, I am not responsible if they sit you in front of a huge 
TV screen to watch U2 play from Wembley(or some other place). 
I am not responsible if this link is to a travel agency.  I am not 
responsible if you end up watching the Spice Girls while U2 play 
somewhere else.  In other words, buy these tickets at your own 
risk. 
What really bothers me about this site is that you would figure 
that a site representing a party this big would use better HTML 
than I'm capable of programming.... 
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Thanks to Wendy and Dave for the following: 
>From Music Week in the UK 
U2�s The Joshua Tree, is to feature in a second series of Classic Albums to 
be broadcast on ITV next year. The programmes, which are expected to be 
shown next spring, follow the highly-acclaimed first series which was 
broadcast by the BBC last summer and helped boost sales of the six albums 
it featured including Jimi Hendrix�s Electric Ladyland, Paul Simon�s 
Graceland and Fleetwood Mac�s Rumours. 
Nick de Grunwald, executive producer of the show at production company 
Isis, who came up with the idea for the first series while producing The 
Making Of Sgt Pepper, says, �The BBC were taking a long time coming back to 
me. ITV came in and really loved the whole thing.� The new series will 
again set out to dissect six classic albums to find out how they captured 
the spirit of their age so effectively. �We�ve again gone back to the 
original multi-track recordings and isolated different musical components 
like the voice,� says Grunwald, who adds that the remaining three albums to 
feature in the series will be announced shortly. 
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>From Yahoo: 
Sunday December 6 4:25 PM ET 
B.B. King set to launch LatAm blues tour 
SANTIAGO, Dec 6 (Reuters) - Bluesman B.B. King will launch his 
third tour of Chile on Monday, and will also haul his guitar through 
Argentina, Uruguay and Brazil. 
The 73-year-old King, smartly dressed in a dark suit, tie and white- 
collared blue shirt, discussed his Latin American tour with reporters 
in the Chilean capital on Sunday. 
``I am lucky. I have a job (in which) I didn't have to stop work at 65,'' 
he said. ``I have played 88 different countries around the world, and 
each day I hope that I can play some more for other people.'' 
King said he would play older tunes as well as some from his self- 
produced ``Blues on the Bayou'' CD, which MCA Records released 
in October. 
Reuters/Variety 
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Uhm....simply put, this is _the_ funniest thing I've seen online in 
a while.  Thanks to [email protected] for the link. 
Hope you all get the joke: 
 http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Underground/4512/feelgood.JPG 
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(Thanks to DJ Gibi for the following) 
>From www.calendarlive.com: 
Music News & Reviews 
December 5, 1998 
Pop Beat 
'Limited Edition' or Marketing Ploy? 
CDs being sold as collectibles to Garth Brooks fans and 
others are not always such rarities. 
By GEOFF BOUCHER, Times Staff Writer 
   
Buy it. Buy it now. In fact, buy six--someday they might 
be worth something. 
 That's the unstated pitch some record companies are 
using to sell readily-available albums by presenting them as 
collectibles or fleeting "limited editions." 
And they're dangling some big names--the Beatles, 
Frank Sinatra, Queen and, most prominently, the season's 
seemingly ubiquitous Garth Brooks. 
The new Brooks album, "Double Live," hit store shelves 
last month with six different covers, including one 
embossed with a shiny "first edition" seal that suggests a 
certain limited-edition quality, even though a million copies 
of each cover were sent out. 
"I know for a fact that some fans went out and bought 
12--two of each cover so they keep one unopened," said Pat 
Quigley, president of Brooks' label, Capitol Nashville. 
"Collectibility works very well for us. . . . Garth has devoted 
fans." 
Indeed, the fans scooping up extra copies helped the 
album enjoy the best first-week sales in music history with 
1.08 million copies sold. 
But some industry insiders are decrying the multiple 
covers and similar tactics as crass maneuvers to exploit 
and mislead fans. 
"It's like the salespeople say in meetings, 'Yeah it's a 
limited edition--limited to what we can sell,' " said Rick 
Wietsma, an executive vice president of WEA Inc. who 
oversees the production of albums on the Warner, Elektra 
and Atlantic labels. "There are things being put out now in 
packaging designed to make people think it's unique or 
limited and that's really not the case." 
True limited-edition albums, usually produced only by the 
hundreds or thousands, are issued every year as 
promotional tools or collectors' items aimed at the most 
devoted fans. The packaging is often elaborate or 
unusual--wood crates, metal shells, perfumed boxes, 
padded fabric casings--or the music itself is culled from 
rare performances or catalogs. 
But now mass-manufactured albums are arriving on 
shelves with the earmarks of collectibles. For example, a 
new repackaging of Frank Sinatra's "Duets" albums is 
labeled "limited edition," the same phrase that appears on a 
new Queen box set, even though both collections are widely 
available. And last month, the copies of "The Best of U2: 
1980-1990" that went on sale in Canada were numbered, 
prompting some U.S. fans to start a quest for them, even 
though they are otherwise identical to the stateside version. 
The term "limited edition" is routinely tacked onto the 
titles of albums collecting the works of veteran artists to 
add to the appeal of the product, but rarely is the term 
meaningful, says Gary Johnson, co-owner of Rockaway 
Records, a Los Angeles shop that caters to collectors. "It's 
a nebulous term, granted, but they even put it on stuff that 
comes out with 50,000 copies," Johnson said. 
In the case of Brooks, 1 million copies of an album 
stamped "first edition" drew cynical responses from the 
music industry. 
   
"That doesn't seem to be a bonus for the fan, that seems 
a little more like greed to me," said Jeff Magid, who 
oversees production for Geffen Music. "The intention is to 
sell two or three instead of one." 
Quigley acknowledges that his label "has been bombed" 
by industry criticism for the multiple covers and other 
marketing tactics for the Brooks album, but he added that 
fans "deserve marketing" and that music "needs to be more 
of a collectible if it's going to grow in pop culture." 
   
The strategy isn't completely new--in fact, copies of a 
new remastering of the Beatles' so-called "White Album" 
bear serial numbers, just like the original 1968 vinyl 
release--and the assorted specialty packagings through the 
years have been gobbled up by a vast collectors market. 
   
But the most coveted albums, the ones that qualify as 
true collectibles, were produced in small numbers and were 
never marketed as keepsakes, points out Pete Howard, 
publisher of ICE, a newsletter for music fans. 
   
"I'm a serious collector myself, and I know if something 
proclaims itself a collectible, it usually isn't," Howard said. 
"Not to be a snob, but collectors snicker and sneer at 
something that was made to be a collectible." 
   
Quigley disagrees. 
   
He says the Brooks first edition albums will become 
valuable in the years to come, joining the collectors' market 
that sees vintage Elvis Presley and Beatles records fetch 
hundreds of dollars. But Johnson, who can get $600 at his 
store for a mint copy of Presley's 1957 Christmas album, 
doubts that today's commonly sold compact discs will ever 
ascend into the realm of collectibles. 
   
Johnson and Howard point out that the sheer number of 
albums produced today--along with the durability of 
compact discs compared to vinyl LPs--makes it unlikely 
there will ever be a scarcity. "Unlike those old records, no 
one is going to wear them out as often or throw them away 
and make them rare," Howard said. 
   
Still, what's the harm of adding a serial number, special 
seal or some other flourish to compact disc packaging to 
entice fans? One problem is that some of the special 
packages mean extra production costs and, sometimes, a 
higher price, said George Scarlett, vice president of product 
management for the Tower retail chain. A recent KISS 
album, for example, was released with four different covers, 
which meant an additional $4 was tacked on to the album's 
price tag, Scarlett said. 
   
"It was hard for our customers not to see it as a rip-off," 
Scarlett said. "But I'm sure we had fans who bought all four. 
It's a way to get people to buy more than one, and no 
merchant on Earth is going to gripe about that. But as a 
consumer, I like fun collectibles, I like unique collectibles. 
But mass-market collectibles? That sounds like price 
gouging." 
Copyright 1998 Los Angeles Times. All Rights Reserved 
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Thanks to Henry Wagner for the following: 
Subject: WORLD: AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL PRESENTS 10 
MILLION PLEDGES TO SUPPORT HUMAN RIGHTS TO KOFI ANNAN 
* News Release Issued by the International Secretariat of Amnesty 
International * 
News Service: 239/98 
AI INDEX: ACT 30/27/98 
3 DECEMBER 1998 
MEDIA ADVISORY 
MEDIA EVENT/ PHOTO OPPORTUNITY 
AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL PRESENTS 10 MILLION PLEDGES 
TO SUPPORT HUMAN RIGHTS TO KOFI ANNAN 
To mark the 50th anniversary of the Universal Declration of 
Human Rights, Amnesty International Secretary General Pierre 
San� will present 11 million pledges supporting the Declaration 
to UN Secretary General Kofi Annan, in the Palais de Chaillot, 
Paris. 
Media arrangements: 
 18.30 hrs, 8 DECEMBER 1998, 
 Grand Foyer, Palais de Chaillot, Place du Trocadero, Paris 
All media need accreditation to the Human Rights Defenders 
Summit and Kofi Annan handover event. 
For accreditation or further information and a press pack, 
please contact: 
Sophie Lussier, summit Press Office -- 
tel: +33 1 4923 1187/1123 or fax: +33 1 49 23 0048 
Raphael Sachetat, Amnesty International (AI), 
tel: +33 1 4923 1141/1171/1111 
Mark Ogle, Susan Kobrin (AI) 
tel: +33 1 4923 1141/1177 or mobile +44 468 182 474 
For the past year, Amnesty International members around the world have 
collected pledges in support of the UDHR from approximately 11 million 
people from all walks of life in 120 countries. The pledge reads "I will 
do everything in my power to ensure the rights contained in the UDHR 
become a reality throughout the world." Well-known signatories include: 
Tony Blair, Jacques Chirac, Yoweri Museveni, Kim Dae-Jung, Yasser 
Arafat, the Dalai Lama, Archbishop Desmond Tutu, Daw Aung San Suu Kyi, 
the Mothers of the Plaza de Mayo, U2, Mick Jagger, Harrison Ford, Puff 
Daddy, and the whole national football teams from France, the 
Netherlands and South Africa, as well as millions of ordinary 
individuals. The pledges represent powerful worldwide support for the 
UDHR and a demand by ordinary people from around the globe that their 
governments live up to the promises they made in 1948. 
ENDS.../ 
Amnesty International, International Secretariat, 1 Easton Street, 
WC1X 8DJ, London, United Kingdom 
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>From CNN: 
MILLENNIUM GIG TO RIVAL LIVE AID 
(DEC. 3) WENN - FIRST - INTERNATIONAL MUSIC NEWS - 
EXCLUSIVE THE gig of the new millennium - a global concert on 
New Years Eve 1999 to rival LIVE AID.  U2, DAVE STEWART, 
STING, BON JOVI, SINEAD O'CONNOR, DIANA ROSS, CELINE 
DION, PETER GABRIEL and ALANIS MORISSETTE are among the 
50 performers already keen to take part in the 24-hour event - live 
on the internet.  And 80 national and international TV broadcasters 
have already pledged to broadcast parts of the show live themselves. 
The event has quietly been put together during the past year by 
American Live Aid producer HAL UPLINGER and London based 
Japanese entrepreneur HIROSHI KATO. 
WARCHILD, the British charity which aids children around the world, 
maimed and orphaned by the ravages of war, are one of the most 
important sponsors. And THE POPE and NELSON MANDELA 
are among a specially selected group of world leaders invited to 
relay special messages on the day. Kato said last night (03DEC98) 
in an exclusive interview with WENN, "The concert will take us out 
of the 20th and into the 21st century. It will have QUINCY JONES 
producing and performing from the Antarctic, Dave Stewart producing 
a global choir of 200 children, live on millions of PC's all over the world." 
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(Prarit's note: No other story on confirmation on this yet -- until 
there is, this is a RUMOUR.) 
>From MuchMusic: 
U2 PLAYS GIG OF THE MILLENNIUM 
U2 are among the 50 performers set to play at what promises to be 
the gig of the new millennium - a 24-hour global concert to rival Live 
Aid, broadcast live on the Internet on New Years Eve 1999. Eighty 
national and international TV broadcasters have already pledged 
to broadcast parts of the show live themselves. Other performers 
include STING, SINEAD O'CONNOR, PETER GABRIEL and ALANIS 
MORISSETTE, and the POPE and NELSON MANDELA are among a 
specially selected group of world leaders invited to deliver messages 
on that day. 
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Prarit..... 
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http://www.members.home.net/u2-news/u2.html 
This page is brought to you by the letter "U" and the number "2". 
-- Prarit....[email protected] U2 news: http://www.members.home.net/u2-news/u2.html
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